Re: Vols looking to soften schedule
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VOL61
I agree money is a part of it. But I think Dooley has more to do with this than alot of people are thinking. I also don't think we are paying 3 staffs. They are still paying Fulmer. Besides that I don't think they are paying anyone other than the current staff. Except maybe the strengh coach Smith. But it seems he got a job somewhere?
Wrong. Dooley basically said he has nothing to do with the schedule. That's Hamilton's thing and he's the one paid to do it so he defers to him. All of the coaches that were kept on in January when Kiffin left are still being paid. The same thing with Orgeron, there was some clause in his contract that if he was named Defensive Coordinator he didn't have to pay a buy out. All of those guys were paid out a % on what was left on their contracts so they're technically not still paying them, but it was money that was paid to them this year. Including that big retention bonus that Monte got for still being on staff on Dec. 31.
Re: Vols looking to soften schedule
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Ironlung
Wrong. Dooley basically said he has nothing to do with the schedule. That's Hamilton's thing and he's the one paid to do it so he defers to him. All of the coaches that were kept on in January when Kiffin left are still being paid. The same thing with Orgeron, there was some clause in his contract that if he was named Defensive Coordinator he didn't have to pay a buy out. All of those guys were paid out a % on what was left on their contracts so they're technically not still paying them, but it was money that was paid to them this year. Including that big retention bonus that Monte got for still being on staff on Dec. 31.
I don't know where you heard Dooley has nothing to do with the schedule. But I have never heard him say that. You should listen to the interview with Dooley on the Sports Animal in knoxville (WNML) at the welcome back BBQ then tell me I am wrong. Dooley basically said head coaches don't want to play anyone tough out of conference. He talks about the #'s we have. He talks about setting the team up for success and building Momentum. He is every bit as much behind this as Hamilton. If you think otherwise you are kidding yourself.
Also the coaches that left all recieved jobs. We recieved a buyout from Kiffin. Orgeron isn't getting any money. He isn't paying us because of the defensive cordinator title Kiffin gave him. But you said we were paying him which isn't true at all. The % you talk about would be the time they where here. We didn't pay them to take other jobs. Monte got his bonus two weeks before he left. That isn't "Still paying him".
Money is one aspect of this but not the only one. And honestly I don't believe it is the main reason it was done. Dooley wanted this and Hamilton has said Fulmer had talked about dropping this game as well as Kiffin. It is in a bad spot on the schedule between UF and UGA. Our two most important games.
I don't really like it. But again, I understand it. We need to do anything we can to help get this program back on its feet. Then we can take on all the Oklahoma's, Ohio St.'s, Nebraska's, Etc.... Out of conference. Because this leauge is hard enough. And with 72 kids it is almost impossible.
Re: Vols looking to soften schedule
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Originally Posted by
VOL61
I don't know where you heard Dooley has nothing to do with the schedule. But I have never heard him say that. You should listen to the interview with Dooley on the Sports Animal in knoxville (WNML) at the welcome back BBQ then tell me I am wrong. Dooley basically said head coaches don't want to play anyone tough out of conference. He talks about the #'s we have. He talks about setting the team up for success and building Momentum. He is every bit as much behind this as Hamilton. If you think otherwise you are kidding yourself. .
It was in a VQ article or a blurb on there somewhere because that's the only place I keep up with this.
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VOL61
Also the coaches that left all recieved jobs. We recieved a buyout from Kiffin. Orgeron isn't getting any money. He isn't paying us because of the defensive cordinator title Kiffin gave him. But you said we were paying him which isn't true at all. The % you talk about would be the time they where here. We didn't pay them to take other jobs. Monte got his bonus two weeks before he left. That isn't "Still paying him".
I said it's money that they've spent on coaches this year. Monte had to be on staff Dec 31 for that bonus to be paid. He recieved that money after 1/1/10. The same as everyone else who was on that staff. Hubbs also said that with everyone who didn't leave with Kiffin on day 1 and wasn't retained they had to be bought out. That money was paid this year. So like I said, they're paying for 3 coaching staffs this year. If you take Monte's retention bonus alone, that's almost half a million dollars paid THIS YEAR to a coach who will not coach a game in the state of Tennessee this year.
Re: Vols looking to soften schedule
I couldn't find the article at first but I went back and found it. Here's what I was talking about.... "Well Mike handles the scheduling, but he doesn't do anything without at least getting my thoughts on it. He has a real good understanding of what's important to the fans and our program and I've got a lot of trust in how he's managing the schedule and I think he's doing a great job," Dooley said. "But that (scheduling) is pretty much stuff I defer to him.
"Obviously if I was in big disagreement in what he wanted to do, I would express that and he would probably respect it. So I kind of defer to him unless I adamantly oppose."
Re: Vols looking to soften schedule
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CP7
LoL at UT not wanting to play a middle of the pack ACC team.
I can see where their coming from, but it's still funny.
I wonder how many games UT won't come close to selling out this year?
Yeah, it is pretty funny IMO. According to some playing an ACC team is about like playing a 1-AA team and the Vols want out. Now the NCAA is getting ready to open an inquiry into the Vols recruiting practices during Kiffin's stint. Good Old Lane Kiffin, the gift that keeps on giving!! :lol::lol::lol: :thankU:
